
The article I wrote on Friday received over 30,000 unique visits in less than 24 hours and it continues to get hammered. I have received numerous emails from all over the map, the majority of them supporting my position.
There are basically 3 types of email I received, the first type (and majority) being supporters agreeing with my position. The second type are those who constantly compare AMD’s current offerings with Intel’s future offerings – how is that even a reasonable argument? The third type of email comes from those who are genuinely interested in the technology and are speculating either way. I respect all opinions, as you can see by the comments on my blog I don’t censor anyone.
It’s rare that someone in the industry speaks out in a forum such as this. I learned from Mark Cuban that there’s nothing wrong with being vocal – however I can’t afford to make comments that will jeopardize my company in any way. Therefore everything I say is fully researched before I hit the keyboard.
Last year I called out ATi for their poor execution, and for using our name on a launch list on a product that we had yet to see. People in the industry were shocked, and I was accused of throwing sour grapes at ATi by a few. All of my competitors stayed quiet, while I went out on a limb and risked any chance of building a relationship with ATi. Well, clearly I told the truth as even ATi admitted to missing multiple targets.
What transpired from this? A stronger ATi (though still battered and bruised), and a better relationship between ATi and Voodoo. We are now working with their next generation products and it’s no secret that we’re very impressed by them.
My point is, I am a fan of fantastic technology – I am not a fan-boy, and as anyone who works closely with bleeding edge technology will tell you, my sweeping statements about are pretty accurate. Over a year ago I was quoted as saying BTX was doomed to fail. I also felt the same about Itanium, and a number of other unrelated products. I'm not a crystal ball, I mean we all make mistakes - but most of this stuff is pretty black and white.
I want to reiterate that it’s not personal, though many of my comments over the last year have been critical of Intel’s marketing and product execution strategy; everything I say is based on facts and research.
I feel it would be doing a disservice to our customers to sell them such expensive machines without offering them the best of class technology. In fact, we were the first system builder to use the Pentium M in a desktop – which we switched over to Turion 64 a few months later.
In other words, if the technology doesn’t meet our standards, we won’t actively promote it as leading edge. You will certainly find lots of support for Intel Centrino platforms on our site, just as you will find support for AMD Turion 64, Athlon 64, Opteron 64, and of course the mack daddy of all CPU’s – Athlon FX. The same goes with ATi and NVIDIA, if they miss the mark, we have no choice but to pull their products or help guide them to building better products.
In response to those people who want to compare yet to be released Intel technology with current generation AMD. (ie: Core Duo on the desktop against AMD Athlon 64) I suppose it’s good for AMD, considering their previous generation will still hold it’s own against Intel’s “next generation 32 bit” technology. Unfortunately for the mass market Core Duo is still a month or two away (unless you buy an Apple).
Technology aside, AMD is an easy company to work with. Speak with anyone in the industry and they will tell you that the corporate culture at AMD makes you want them to succeed. Doing business with them is a breeze, and it’s interesting to see them in a position where they can finally call the shots.
Years ago I felt the same about Intel, their channel strategy was clear and concise, but somewhere along the line they lost the plot. Now I’m more confused than ever, through all the glamour and glitz I still don’t know wth VIIV is all about – and I know I’m not the only one. My Intel rep is a great guy, I've known him for years, but even he wasn't too clear on the VIIV strategy last year. In fairness to him, no one at the Intel booth at CES was clear on VIIV, they all had something different to say. My gut tells me “VIIV” might go down a similar path as “BTX” – hard to say at this point, it’s far too young to speculate.
I can also publicly say that I do NOT own a dime of AMD, Intel, ATi or Nvidia stock. I don't actually trade stocks in my field - perhaps I should :) but I haven't really been active in tech stocks at all. I am heavily vested in my own company, and you'll probably read more about some of the ventures I'm working on in the future.
To the handful of you who are wondering if its sour grapes, I suggest that you do your research. It might also help your case if you post or email me with a real identity so you have some credibility.
Lastly, visit our website at http://www.voodoopc.com/, and see the caliber of our product line. You might then understand my position …
This article was a follow up of a previous article I wrote over here.
13 blogger comments:
It's not often that I see such honest comments from someone so high in the tech field.
Thanks for your great work and excellent, unbiased opinions, facts, and research. It's very refreshing to see that Voodoo's not in the pockets of any companies, and that its goal is to carry the bleeding-edge technology, rather than just one company's tech.
Excelent article!!! I totally agree with the plausible fact that amd´s old line of product still compares with intel´s next generation of processors. Looking foward to seing amd getting more clock speed and less power consuption with it´s 65nm production. Long life to the king!!!
Intel is like many companies that grown up with an exclusive concept that made them rich beyond reasonable limits. They have not the culture of understanding and they have a total lack of vision. They can hire truckload of so called experts with more diplomas than teeth but none of them have the vista of a single individual like Jerry Sanders and Hector Ruiz. These guys are coming from the real life, fought to survive, and today their obstinate efforts are paying off!
Great lesson!
I found a hefty list of incredibly interesting links about our two AMD's fellows and I encourage you to follow them carefully in order to understand what kind of soul we're talking about. It's a bit spartan but full of good insights:
http://www.amdboard.com/sanderspecial.html
http://www.amdboard.com/ruizspecial.html
Intel has not lost 4 years with P4, it got imcredible experience, it revamped, and will now bring all NetBurst innovations to "core" in-time, it was just too early.
AMD started to loose time, it seems they stuck with innovation. K8L coming in 2007(??) is nothing really better then K8 in Cycles-per-instruction, K9 seems dead, K10 seems has not been born yet.
Intel wins with GHz/XX-nm/power with new Merom, I have information I can trust that Merom outperform Opteron by ~20% in average in CPI (i.e. on the same GHz). Merom designed for power savings ... I just don't see why I would want to buy AMD in the second half of the year.
Thank you,
-Max
It's great to see someone in your position not be a "fan-boy" I feel exactly the same way about Intel. Back when the Celeron was the overclockers dream, Intel was much better off. As soon as they decided to pursue Slot1 and dump common chipsets, things have been going down hill.
After the release of the Opteron there was no looking back for AMD as they have owned games and most productivit stuff that wasn't overly SSE3-optimized.
As far as ATI, they disappointed me time and again with paper launches and crappy products. They have finally gottem things together but all that happens is that they own the crown until NVidia releases their next product. I still have yet to see a real CrossFire presence. If they improve maybe I'll consider using them but I am more than happy with my BFG 7800GT and X2 4400+.
I really hope that Intel gets it together but at this point they have to erase 3-4 years of NetBurst and nuclear powered Dells. I really believe that AMD has a few secrets about AM2 that will take Intel out back again and beat the crap out of them. I can see the FX series going to 3.6GHz at 65nm.
I can't wait to see a 3.6GHz Opteron on a 400MHz HT link with FBDIMMS. They are already talking about 333MHz.
Hi, I totaly agree with you, but specificaly, you striked a cord when talking about intel VIIV. I m into pc hardware for years now and am pretty used to all the marketing bangs of the big companies, yet it is still totaly unclear to me what VIIV might bring to me. Does it improve video compression - decompression ? Does it accelerate network transfert ? Does it improve onto something actually usefull to me ? Unclear ... It "will make my multimedia experience more enjoyable" ... whatever. I fell that when all the fuss is gone VIIV will boil down to be only a set of chips with hard coded DRM ... hemm .. hu ho ... I mean like realy big 'hu ho'. If that is the case that thing won t enter into my PC, and will crash and burn for sure. If that is the case, then I understand why Intel whant to keep it 'unclear'.
I think better of my own opinions because you seem to share some simmilar ones. I appreciated the concise article and your writing style is something I definitely appreciated.
It is great to know people like you are heading up leading edge companies like Voodoo. I hope many more enthusiasts and developers learn to view things as you do, promoting healthy competition, and only being a 'fan-boy' of the best.
I also think it's kind of neat that the CTO of a company like Voodoo has a blog :D
A couple of truly informed and useful articles. Keep up the good work - with articles like this my next pc, a water cooled gaming monster is a Voodoo.
VI IV is roman numerals for 64 actually. thats all there is to it. im a big supporter of amd products, so much that i have sold more amd than intel in all stores i worked at..
i believe in the amd product so much that i will put my credibility on them.
everything about owning and working with an amd product just gives me a feeling i am supporting a company that cares about my end user experience.
it amuses me to no end that intels going back to using the p6 architure (albiet slightly modified) they seriously lost sight during the MHz race, now its biting them in the ass.
I visited your site 22,038 times to read your last blog. I have ADD, my apologies.
On a side note, I wanted to tell you I enjoy reading your blog, and that the majority of the world is a complete idiot. You're always going to get a response from them, even if you have no idea what they are talking about.
Insightful.
AMD is seeking the bleeding edge. Earlier this month, AMD signed a five year license agreement with Rambus for access to Rambus controller IP, including Rambus XDR™ controllers "as well as other current and future high-speed memory and logic controller interfaces."
I'm unable to understand why there is all this conversation about Intel. Who is Intel? I have been building systems for a few customers for many years but I have never sold a single Intel-based system and there are no circumstances under which I would do so. Intel has been ripping off the human race for more than a generation. There is only AMD. I refuse to even think about selling an Intel-based system. For all I care Intel could close their doors today. Of course then AMD would be Intel. This is a lose lose situation.
I'll reserve my judgement on whether you are truely unbiased! But I enjoy your articles.
I'd like to offer a perspective from an end-user though. I am an engineer, and I take some pleasure in doing my own platform builds for home and friends. I have dutifully supported AMD through the past 6 years from K6 through to A64. I build a few each year. No arguments from me about their current technological superiority. However, I am feeling lately perhaps that they've started to let me down.
My most recent build was a month ago. I was keenly planning to build an Opteron 146 or 148 platform. The price-juggling that took place with the lower-end Opteron was the start of my sour feeling. AMD initially was obviously keen to spread Opterons far and wide hence they were made affordable. Some enthusiasts saw the potential and relished the offering, even though the mass market would not have grasped it. Then AMD got reticent about the chip's popularity and responded by bumping up the low-end opteron prices to make it thoroughly unattractive to the enthusiast. With a sigh I ended that pursuit. So I looked at the next option - the 1MB cache 3700+. Could I find one in my neck of the woods? Not a chance - they were out of stock for weeks. Poor channel supply. What about a dual-core at the same price point? Nothing to be found there in the AMD stable. Eventually I had to settle on a 3500. So as I see it, AMD successfully 'herded' me into a pen that I didn't want to be in. Nevermind - it will serve my current needs okay. As a family man, my financial priorities restrict me from spending big on components.
So where do I stand? I've finally decided to give Intel a go for my next build. Their technologically less superior dual cores are not as high performing as the equivalent AMDs, but they certainly are in that vital 'consumer affordable' price zone. The D900 series does look attractive enough to give it a go. Can't remember a time in the past when I looked at Intel for a 'cheaper' alternative. My, how times change.
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