
This article is an extended version of the one written for the latest issue of Custom PC Magazine in the U.K.
When Intel launched Viiv I recall the confusion it provided PC OEMs, System Builders, and Channel partners alike. Like a third nipple no one really understood the value of Viiv or what it was meant to add to the customer experience. If you ask me, Viiv was developed by marketing people to sell more Intel components – for no good reason. I even remember having a discussion with a CEO of another OEM about Viiv and we were laughing at how confusing it was. Although Intel would like to see differently, Viiv is/was a total failure, and in no way should be compared to Centrino.
It seems as if Centrino was developed by engineers in order to improve the experience of owning a notebook – and, luckily for Intel, it somehow got backed into a marketing strategy with a platform name.
Intel Centrino made sense because there was significant value add for the customer – although such value-add is starting to get lost in the shuffle of competition. Thus the difference between Viiv and Centrino is one offers actual benefit to the consumer while the other is just a sales pitch – and a seemingly useless one at that.
Equally disappointing as Viiv was AMD’s attempt to create their own Viiv, calling it LIVE! AMD claims to have developed LIVE! well before Viiv, regardless of when it was developed they still didn't do a good job of communicating what it meant to the consumer. Some at AMD believe that Live! positioned directly against Viiv actually helped AMD in retail. Although AMD has some interesting software offerings with Live! Regardless, I personally think both are crap implementations of pretty much nothing. Remember, this is just my opinion :)
In the ideal world no one should care what sticker is on the outside of the “box” as it pertains to processors. My mom could care less if she had an Intel processor with Viiv or an AMD processor with LIVE! She just wants a computer that’s easy to use. She wants to get on the internet, check her email, play a few games, and use MSN messenger.
As an enthusiast, I don’t care what sticker is on the outside (other than my brand of course) – in fact, we refuse to put AMD, Microsoft, Intel, or Nvidia stickers on the outside of our gaming systems. It’s not about them, and that’s the way it should be. It’s SHOULD be about you, the customer, and nothing more – right? ...In an ideal world perhaps.
...time for a rant.
This goes for Nvidia and ATI video cards – assuming the performance is similar, as long as your machine delivers the best possible experience for your particular application does it really matter which chip is in the machine? I think not. Every time someone from Nvidia sells us on the benefits of SLI over Crossfire, I feel like telling them “tell that to those customers who purchased QUAD SLI and can’t get it to work with Vista...!”
Nvidia Vista drivers are getting better (though not nearly perfect – I still can’t fly a plane from Calgary to Seattle in MS Flight Simulator X without my SLI based system barfing in Vista). Yes, perhaps their drivers for their 8800 series are getting better - but Nvidia still needs to go back and fix the thousand dollar graphics packages that they sold last year - and fast! Customers who spent $1,000 on a dual graphics configuration are asked to disable one in order to run many games – which effectively means they spent $500 on a heat generator that draws power. Though I have experienced issues with ATI, it’s just not nearly as bad. Perhaps it's time for people to stop blaming Microsoft for all of their problems and start fixing them.
Here’s hoping for a future where AMD, Nvidia, Intel and others start focussing on platforms that add value to the customer experience, rather than their bottom line, so we can build systems that make sense.
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I totally agree. I was actually stoked when VIIV was announced. I owned one of the very first HTPCs made by Gateway back in 1999. It set me back 6 grand and came with a 200lb 36 inch monitor. It was my pride and joy. It earned a position of authority in my living room. My wife called it "HAL". I called it "son." Unfortunatly the day came when Windows XP came out and I came to the painful realization that the custom SOC motherboard rendered the entire system obsolete. My son had died and I didn't want to drop 6 grand on another system that could not be upgraded.
Intel and AMD both had/have significant opportunities to do the right thing with the media PC. Unfortunately so far they have missed the target. The world does not need yet another set of hands massaging it's collective DRM. Nor does it need a hardware vendor to sell it a software suite. What needs to happen is for the respective Geneseo/Torrenza initiatives to enhance the makeup of a media PC. Let your UI of choice handle the user experience and let the hardware vendors develop an upgradeable system that could potentially offer every configuration under the sun (optical 7.1 sound, HDTV cable, HDMI, HD DVD/BluRay, etc).
Rahul,
You want to have your cake and eat it too .. the reality is somewhat different
I remembered once upon a time when you actually talked about new products. Since the HP buy what has Voodoo done...? Even the technology posts have lost their edge. We want the old Rahul back!
Cake and eat it too? Wouldn't it just make sense for technology to work as advertised/expected?
Viiv and LIVE! are nothing. They literally are N-O-T-H-I-N-G. I bought components with the Viiv logo on the box and what did it do for me? Nothing. How many times can I say this? NOTHING. ZERO.
And all the while I thought, "Hmm, how much am I paying extra for this logo on it?" $5 for a mobo? $10? I KNOW I'm paying something extra and what am I getting in exchange? Some sort of vague inter-Intel self certification or approval? Are there better specs or something? I even looked it up on the internet and what I found was marketing speak which had no value whatsoever.
So anyways, Viiv is just nothing. Really. Wow, I didn't even have an application bundle or documentation saying anything about Viiv. And what did Intel make from it? It makes me mad to think how marketing douchebags get their fingers into things and make it unnecessarily confusing and useless in order to make a quick buck.
A great example is the PhysX card. Pure junk - it puts even more load onto the CPU in cases, but the marketing gurus made it to be something wonderful and base it on theory rather than proof.
Same with the quad/dual video cards like Rahul says - practially junk except in certain cases, but it sounds good in theory.
I'm pissed at these hardware manufacturers being lead around by marketing idiots.
I'm not sure if anybody else noticed but your article is somewhat on the hypocitical side.
You're beating on VIIV and Live! for being "developed by marketing people to sell more Intel components – for no good reason" and then turn around and tout Vista.
Microsoft's Vista is the epitome of marketing an entire operating system that doesn't offer any more usability than the previous generation, costs more, and demands more of a computer to run. There are numerous third party companies that have "hacked" XP into a better OS than it is (I've seen highly secured releases, I've even seen a REAL-TIME VERSION for time critical applications).
Instead of improving on a product line Microsoft has taken the same tact and released an OS that is all about the marketing. Marketing that is confusing to the customer just as much as Viiv or Live. A person used to working with XP looks at Vista is asks "Why?"
Bryan:
Because it's pretty?
I hear you...there is no incentive to move to Vista now and experience all the same development issues that XP went through for years after it was released. I can see it becoming relevant for DX10/HTPC reasons, but there's just no hardware to take advantage of it yet. Not to mention the price of it is ridiculous even if it DID work as advertised.
It's just another reason why marketing execs should be executed and the engineering nerds who are far more honest should be in charge of telling the public what is and what isn't, hah.
Clearly VIIV was an attempt to copy Centrino over into the desktop space and as you suggest it was a failure (much like AMD's LIVE, which despite claims, was a response to VIIV)
While as an engineer (or others as technical folks) don't care about Centrino or VIIV or LIVE, if it is done correctly, it is a powerful marketing tool for the masses. Centrino drove the notebook market... yes there were likely equally good (or nearly as good) individual components but Intel bundling it together into a Centrino kite pushed the market (though some will argue the market would have moved anyway)
Centrino was not an engineering effort luckily turned into a marketing strategy - it was Intel's first (major) foray into selling a platform instead of components. They tried to copy it on desktop and obviously failed (I would argue that's because the desktop market is much more mature)
"As an enthusiast, I don’t care what sticker is on the outside (other than my brand of course)"
Then (as a customer) take the sticker off. I can't blame Intel for wanting a sticker on the box any more than I blame you, and for the same reasons. If the customer doesn't want the sticker and doesn't identify with the company, fine. It's still a lot easier to remove than, say, the adware in Microsoft Money.
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